Comments on: Mark Salter on Team Hope http://mccain.blogsforvictory.com/2008/05/09/mark-salter-on-team-hope/ Sat, 19 Jul 2008 05:32:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: KMorrison http://mccain.blogsforvictory.com/2008/05/09/mark-salter-on-team-hope/#comment-788 KMorrison Sat, 10 May 2008 00:03:31 +0000 http://mccain.blogsforvictory.com/2008/05/09/mark-salter-on-team-hope/#comment-788 I should have been more clear with my comment. The 'losing his bearings' remark I don't find terribly offensive, but it was a convenient way for him to avoid the issue that he was endorsed by Hamas. Obviously Senator Obama doesn't have control over what a lot of people say, but that doesn't make what they say irrelevant. I think much of the objection to the 'losing his bearings' remark is that it flies in the face of his 'hope and change' message. It's somewhat similar to President Clinton's comparison of Senator Obama to Jesse Jackson; at face value maybe it's not offensive, but implication behind the remark is distinctively low ball poitics. I should have been more clear with my comment. The ‘losing his bearings’ remark I don’t find terribly offensive, but it was a convenient way for him to avoid the issue that he was endorsed by Hamas. Obviously Senator Obama doesn’t have control over what a lot of people say, but that doesn’t make what they say irrelevant. I think much of the objection to the ‘losing his bearings’ remark is that it flies in the face of his ‘hope and change’ message. It’s somewhat similar to President Clinton’s comparison of Senator Obama to Jesse Jackson; at face value maybe it’s not offensive, but implication behind the remark is distinctively low ball poitics.

]]> By: Matt DiBari http://mccain.blogsforvictory.com/2008/05/09/mark-salter-on-team-hope/#comment-783 Matt DiBari Fri, 09 May 2008 20:27:11 +0000 http://mccain.blogsforvictory.com/2008/05/09/mark-salter-on-team-hope/#comment-783 I think its a non issue. He wouldn't say a 42 year old was losing his bearings. Much like he wouldn't say that a man is taking out the claws or throwing the china. Barack Obama knew exactly what he was saying and how people would take it. No one uses the phrase "losing their bearings" to describe a young man. And no, I don't think Barack Obama will directly or intentionally support terrorist activity, and I don't think Hamas does either. They just look at his naive, idealistic, "why can't we just all get along" foreign policy and see him for what he is. <a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2008/05/09/neville-chamberlain-without-the-umbrella/" rel="nofollow">Neville Chamberlain without the umbrella</a> Sitting down to talk with Hitler worked so well, after all. I'm sorry if that scares you too much, but you know what, the potential of a dangerously naive President appeasing Mahmoud Ahmadinejad scares me. I think its a non issue. He wouldn’t say a 42 year old was losing his bearings. Much like he wouldn’t say that a man is taking out the claws or throwing the china. Barack Obama knew exactly what he was saying and how people would take it. No one uses the phrase “losing their bearings” to describe a young man.

And no, I don’t think Barack Obama will directly or intentionally support terrorist activity, and I don’t think Hamas does either. They just look at his naive, idealistic, “why can’t we just all get along” foreign policy and see him for what he is.

Neville Chamberlain without the umbrella

Sitting down to talk with Hitler worked so well, after all.

I’m sorry if that scares you too much, but you know what, the potential of a dangerously naive President appeasing Mahmoud Ahmadinejad scares me.

]]> By: Joe http://mccain.blogsforvictory.com/2008/05/09/mark-salter-on-team-hope/#comment-782 Joe Fri, 09 May 2008 20:26:59 +0000 http://mccain.blogsforvictory.com/2008/05/09/mark-salter-on-team-hope/#comment-782 By the way...... since roughly 80% of the people of Iraq want the US out, who do you think THEY support in the election? By the way…… since roughly 80% of the people of Iraq want the US out, who do you think THEY support in the election?

]]> By: Joe http://mccain.blogsforvictory.com/2008/05/09/mark-salter-on-team-hope/#comment-781 Joe Fri, 09 May 2008 20:02:10 +0000 http://mccain.blogsforvictory.com/2008/05/09/mark-salter-on-team-hope/#comment-781 So if McCain was 42 yrs old and not 72 years old and Obama said he was "losing his bearings", how would you take that? Would you take it as Obama calling him senile? Or would you take it as McCain is getting so caught up in becoming the next President that he is getting dragged into the smear/scare tactic piece of a campaign? Don't just claim Obama is calling him old just because Mark Salter says so. Think for yourself. As for Hamas, this was covered in the other thread... If Obama actively sought after the Hamas "endorsement" or even accepted it, then you would have a beef. Obama has no control over what Hamas says. Did Hamas say they wanted him to be President because he would allow terrorist activities? No. Perhaps they like the thought of him being President because he would work more actively towards some sort of peace unlike the current administration and the possible McCain administration. Perhaps they like the idea of LESS war in the Middle East. Go ask them why they said what they said and report back to us. So if McCain was 42 yrs old and not 72 years old and Obama said he was “losing his bearings”, how would you take that?
Would you take it as Obama calling him senile?
Or would you take it as McCain is getting so caught up in becoming the next President that he is getting dragged into the smear/scare tactic piece of a campaign?

Don’t just claim Obama is calling him old just because Mark Salter says so. Think for yourself.

As for Hamas, this was covered in the other thread… If Obama actively sought after the Hamas “endorsement” or even accepted it, then you would have a beef. Obama has no control over what Hamas says.
Did Hamas say they wanted him to be President because he would allow terrorist activities? No.
Perhaps they like the thought of him being President because he would work more actively towards some sort of peace unlike the current administration and the possible McCain administration. Perhaps they like the idea of LESS war in the Middle East.
Go ask them why they said what they said and report back to us.

]]> By: Matt DiBari http://mccain.blogsforvictory.com/2008/05/09/mark-salter-on-team-hope/#comment-779 Matt DiBari Fri, 09 May 2008 19:03:47 +0000 http://mccain.blogsforvictory.com/2008/05/09/mark-salter-on-team-hope/#comment-779 As Salter said, the phrase "losing his bearings" has a very clear connotation. Thirty-five year old men do not "lose their bearings." Its a less offensive way of calling someone senile. Its no different than Obama "cleverly" using lines like "taking out the claws" and "throwing the china at me" against Hillary Clinton. And the Ahmed Yousef said that Hamas would like Barack Obama to be President of the United States. That's not a smear. It happened. I for one think its relevant that Barack Obama's flaky foreign policy gets the seal of approval from Hamas. As Salter said, the phrase “losing his bearings” has a very clear connotation. Thirty-five year old men do not “lose their bearings.” Its a less offensive way of calling someone senile.

Its no different than Obama “cleverly” using lines like “taking out the claws” and “throwing the china at me” against Hillary Clinton.

And the Ahmed Yousef said that Hamas would like Barack Obama to be President of the United States. That’s not a smear. It happened.

I for one think its relevant that Barack Obama’s flaky foreign policy gets the seal of approval from Hamas.

]]> By: Joe http://mccain.blogsforvictory.com/2008/05/09/mark-salter-on-team-hope/#comment-774 Joe Fri, 09 May 2008 15:31:21 +0000 http://mccain.blogsforvictory.com/2008/05/09/mark-salter-on-team-hope/#comment-774 First off… Obama did NOT call him a “loony old man”. Talk about having a glass jaw. Good grief. Salter sounds pissed off in that letter for no reason what-so-ever. Let’s looks at what Obama <b><i>actually</i></b> said, shall we? <blockquote>"For him to toss out comments like that, I think, is an example of him losing his bearings as he pursues this nomination. We don't need name-calling in this debate."</blockquote> That isn’t calling anyone a “loony old man”. That is saying that McCain is getting caught up in the nomination and using smear and scare tactics. Salter is sounding like he is the one that is concerned that age will become an issue with the people, so he is firing the first shot to try and pin this on Obama. First off… Obama did NOT call him a “loony old man”. Talk about having a glass jaw. Good grief. Salter sounds pissed off in that letter for no reason what-so-ever.

Let’s looks at what Obama actually said, shall we?

“For him to toss out comments like that, I think, is an example of him losing his bearings as he pursues this nomination. We don’t need name-calling in this debate.”

That isn’t calling anyone a “loony old man”. That is saying that McCain is getting caught up in the nomination and using smear and scare tactics.

Salter is sounding like he is the one that is concerned that age will become an issue with the people, so he is firing the first shot to try and pin this on Obama.

]]> By: KMorrison http://mccain.blogsforvictory.com/2008/05/09/mark-salter-on-team-hope/#comment-773 KMorrison Fri, 09 May 2008 14:40:16 +0000 http://mccain.blogsforvictory.com/2008/05/09/mark-salter-on-team-hope/#comment-773 Senator Obama is out of his league in addressing foreign affairs. Sounds like he may be looking for a way to not discuss the issues. Senator Obama is out of his league in addressing foreign affairs. Sounds like he may be looking for a way to not discuss the issues.

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