Comments on: Obama Advisor Susan Rice’s Major Historical/Foreign Policy Error

By: Joe

Joe — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:54:43 +0000

Thanks guys. I too don’t agree with you on things, but there is no need to be like some out here.
Those common posters on BlogsforVictory get awfully annoying (see Danish Artist).
I don’t go to Kos because I am not one that wants to agree with everyone in a discussion and it is good to see what others talk about and what they feel.

By: Matt DiBari

Matt DiBari — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:37:34 +0000

Joe is great. This blog isn’t here to just for us to pat each other on the back and agree with everything someone says. Nothing wrong with a little healthy debate and conversation, especially if it can remain civil.

By: KMorrison

KMorrison — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:29:20 +0000

In a brief defense of Joe; I’ve seen a bunch or Obama supporter’s comments around the web, and Joe is one of the best. I disagree with him often, but he doesn’t insult or talk down to people and I wish other Obama supporters would learn a lesson in manners from him.

By: KMorrison

KMorrison — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:16:34 +0000

Joe - If that’s the comparison you want to make, run with it.

Here’s my point. Senator Obama has no foreign policy experience, and if his advisors don’t know foreign policy history (particualrly the basic stuff) that’s scary. If she does know her history, and was willing to mislead people for political points that is something I’d hammer any candidate on any day of the week.

I fully acknowlege there is plenty of silliness in politics and particularly campaigning, but this is a real issue. Do Obama advisors know their stuff? Are they willing to mislead people to attain votes?

By: Danish Artist

Danish Artist — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:41:47 +0000

Wow, Joe, you are almost a one man argument AND LOSING!

Why are you here?

Tired of defending the indefensible Obamessiah and came here for a little McCain bashing?

By: Matt DiBari

Matt DiBari — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:51:33 +0000

When that 45 year old meeting is being used to justify his foreign policy, it would be nice if he knew how that meeting worked out.

Basically the Obama Campaign is pledging to repeat one of John Kennedy’s biggest blunders. If that’s not an issue, what on earth is it?

And as of the last week, Obama is really in no position to get on the soap box about mortgages or high gas prices.

By: Joe

Joe — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:53:40 +0000

KMorrison,
I am fine with believing that McCain is smart enough to know the difference between Sunni and Shia. Yet he still confused them FOUR TIMES on that trip that he took. So was he lying, was he trying to sell an attack on Iran? What was he doing?
Once is fine. Twice is questionable. Three times is either not knowing or doing it on purpose. What is four times?

By: Joe

Joe — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:51:33 +0000

Matt, I’m not trying to get into any pissing contest over this. I am saying that this is (yet another) non-issue.

You are taking offense over something an advisor said about something that happened 45 years ago.
Meanwhile… while our troops are in the middle of a battle between Sunni and Shia, McCain doesn’t know the difference or doesn’t want to know the difference between the two entities.

Is this entire Presidential campaign all about he said/she said or is this going to be about issues?

Really… a prime example is over at BlogsforVictory they are up in arms because Obama signed some stupid memo to the Sec of Defense with “I look forward to your swift response”. They are calling him arrogant and ignorant.

For everything you bring up about something Obama or an advisor or an acquaintence says, I can bring one up about McCain, his advisors and his acquaintences.

Enough of the he said/she said and lets get down to things that actually matter to the US people.

For cryin out loud… gas is over $4, forecloseures are still sky high, food prices are exploding…etc.

Who cares about some comment about a 45 year old meeting?

By: KMorrison

KMorrison — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:46:41 +0000

Joe, I don’t think you even believe that Senator McCain doesn’t know the difference between Sunni and Shia. Susan Rice interupted Secretary Lehman to confidently declare how wonderful it was that Kennedy and Khrushchev met without preconditions. Not only do historians dispute this, but President Kennedy himself said he got beaten up at that meeting. Susan Rice’s statement shows she is either lacking knowledge of basic history (in an area where a foreign policy advisor should be well versed), or she made a campaign decision that most people like President Kennedy, and wouldn’t know the difference if she made a false statement.

The candidates all have gaffe’s mixing up words and saying things in a way they didn’t mean them. This isn’t one of those cases, this a confident untrue statement.

By: Matt DiBari

Matt DiBari — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:31:28 +0000

And Barack Obama has no idea what language is spoken in Afghanistan or who grows what crops and why in the various middle east countries.

Joe, you really don’t want to get into this particular pissing contest.

Besides what does that have anything to do with Obama basing his foreign policy on one of the bigger foreign policy blunders of the last century?