Comments on: Humor as a Remedy for Hubris http://mccain.blogsforvictory.com/2008/08/02/humor-as-a-remedy-for-hubris/ Fri, 09 Jan 2009 03:37:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: KMorrison http://mccain.blogsforvictory.com/2008/08/02/humor-as-a-remedy-for-hubris/#comment-3449 KMorrison Sun, 10 Aug 2008 23:58:40 +0000 http://mccain.blogsforvictory.com/2008/08/02/humor-as-a-remedy-for-hubris/#comment-3449 So noted that everyone's sense of humor is wildly different. Welcome Catfish. So noted that everyone’s sense of humor is wildly different. Welcome Catfish.

]]> By: Joe http://mccain.blogsforvictory.com/2008/08/02/humor-as-a-remedy-for-hubris/#comment-3396 Joe Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:18:41 +0000 http://mccain.blogsforvictory.com/2008/08/02/humor-as-a-remedy-for-hubris/#comment-3396 Speaking of advertising… <blockquote> <a href="http://wiscadproject.wisc.edu/wiscads_pressrelease_073008.pdf" rel="nofollow">Wisconsin Advertising Project</a> In general, the campaign advertising appears to be mostly about Obama and less about McCain. Over 90 percent of the ads aired by Obama are positive in nature and do not mention Senator McCain. In contrast, approximately a third of the McCain campaign’s ads are negative, contrasting the two presidential candidates. None of the ads aired by the RNC are positive -- all compare the two candidates, referring to Obama negatively. “This campaign is about Barack Obama, not John McCain,” explains Goldstein. The Democratic nominee should be favored to win this year, with a strong advantage in party identification, a struggling economy, the war in Iraq, and an unpopular incumbent Republican president. In order to win, therefore, Senator Obama must clear a threshold of credibility with voters. According to Goldstein, “What the McCain campaign needs to do is convince the electorate that Barack Obama is not a credible commander-in-chief, and to do that they need to run negative ads. What Senator Obama’s campaign and campaign advertising needs to do is persuade people that he is a credible president.” </blockquote> It is actually a pretty cool study if you read it. It goes thru spending (so far) in different states and markets and what each campaign doing. Speaking of advertising…

Wisconsin Advertising Project
In general, the campaign advertising appears to be mostly about Obama and less about McCain. Over 90 percent of the ads aired by Obama are positive in nature and do not mention Senator McCain. In contrast, approximately a third of the McCain campaign’s ads are negative, contrasting the two presidential candidates. None of the ads aired by the RNC are positive — all compare the two candidates, referring to Obama negatively. “This campaign is about Barack Obama, not John McCain,” explains Goldstein.
The Democratic nominee should be favored to win this year, with a strong advantage in party identification, a struggling economy, the war in Iraq, and an unpopular incumbent Republican president. In order to win, therefore, Senator Obama must clear a threshold of credibility with voters. According to Goldstein, “What the McCain campaign needs to do is convince the electorate that Barack Obama is not a credible commander-in-chief, and to do that they need to run negative ads. What Senator Obama’s campaign and campaign advertising needs to do is persuade people that he is a credible president.”

It is actually a pretty cool study if you read it. It goes thru spending (so far) in different states and markets and what each campaign doing.

]]> By: Hillary Kitten http://mccain.blogsforvictory.com/2008/08/02/humor-as-a-remedy-for-hubris/#comment-3387 Hillary Kitten Fri, 08 Aug 2008 09:43:37 +0000 http://mccain.blogsforvictory.com/2008/08/02/humor-as-a-remedy-for-hubris/#comment-3387 John McCain and Barack Hussein Obama had just finished getting shaved when the barber reached reached for the shop's after-shave lotion. Barack <em>deleted</em>Obama whined, "If you put that on me <em>deleted</em> will think I've been to a <em>deleted</em>!" John McCain turned to the barber and said, "Go ahead and put it on me. <em>deleted</em> doesn't know what the inside of a <em>deleted</em>." John McCain and Barack Hussein Obama had just finished getting shaved when the barber reached reached for the shop’s after-shave lotion.

Barack deletedObama whined, “If you put that on me deleted will think I’ve been to a deleted!”

John McCain turned to the barber and said, “Go ahead and put it on me. deleted doesn’t know what the inside of a deleted.”

]]> By: Catfish http://mccain.blogsforvictory.com/2008/08/02/humor-as-a-remedy-for-hubris/#comment-3385 Catfish Fri, 08 Aug 2008 08:14:28 +0000 http://mccain.blogsforvictory.com/2008/08/02/humor-as-a-remedy-for-hubris/#comment-3385 Congressive......Ima lefty who would make noonan n this site sick. but hyperbole like that only makes the term "kook left" viable. A draft COULD NOT HAPPEN in this country again. No matter how badly the D's screw this election up (and I am pretty sure they will.....). Criticize mccain for the things he deserves it, like shifting from a great, uniting moderate (2000) to a conservative (hack is too strong, he still has a lil maverick in him........) stalwart(?). Buuuut you cant say the ad is tongue in cheek when it follows the line of politicking that hes been following since day 1 of the general campaign. He does want people to think obama is a self-involved arrogant elitist, and THATS the message of this ad. And Obama CANT laugh at the commercials because, even though it uses out of context quotes to be "funny" and absurdist, for obama to not "take it seriously" would be an inherant agreement with the strongest talking point of the McCain campaign--That obama thinks hes great. The merits of THAT argument are not unfounded, though im not sure how important they are.... 1st time poster, sry for length Congressive……Ima lefty who would make noonan n this site sick. but hyperbole like that only makes the term “kook left” viable. A draft COULD NOT HAPPEN in this country again. No matter how badly the D’s screw this election up (and I am pretty sure they will…..). Criticize mccain for the things he deserves it, like shifting from a great, uniting moderate (2000) to a conservative (hack is too strong, he still has a lil maverick in him……..) stalwart(?).

Buuuut you cant say the ad is tongue in cheek when it follows the line of politicking that hes been following since day 1 of the general campaign. He does want people to think obama is a self-involved arrogant elitist, and THATS the message of this ad. And Obama CANT laugh at the commercials because, even though it uses out of context quotes to be “funny” and absurdist, for obama to not “take it seriously” would be an inherant agreement with the strongest talking point of the McCain campaign–That obama thinks hes great.

The merits of THAT argument are not unfounded, though im not sure how important they are….

1st time poster, sry for length

]]> By: congressive http://mccain.blogsforvictory.com/2008/08/02/humor-as-a-remedy-for-hubris/#comment-3375 congressive Fri, 08 Aug 2008 03:55:38 +0000 http://mccain.blogsforvictory.com/2008/08/02/humor-as-a-remedy-for-hubris/#comment-3375 Yeah, lighten up! Another war front in Iran, and we'll all be drafted, and our country bankrupted. and a few more hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians will be dead. That McCain... he's a funny guy! He offers up <em>deleted</em> at the Sturgis biker rally, because, after all , THAT is what best represents the Republican ideal of morality and decency. Git yer motor runnin'... Yeah, lighten up! Another war front in Iran, and we’ll all be drafted, and our country bankrupted. and a few more hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians will be dead.

That McCain… he’s a funny guy! He offers up deleted at the Sturgis biker rally, because, after all , THAT is what best represents the Republican ideal of morality and decency.

Git yer motor runnin’…

]]> By: KMorrison http://mccain.blogsforvictory.com/2008/08/02/humor-as-a-remedy-for-hubris/#comment-3367 KMorrison Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:54:12 +0000 http://mccain.blogsforvictory.com/2008/08/02/humor-as-a-remedy-for-hubris/#comment-3367 My point exactly. People need to lighten up a bit. I thought the Paris Hilton rebuttal was a good one. Also thought that Jib Jab video was funny, though it seemed like no candidate's supporters were terribly ammused by their candidate's portrayal. Everyone's just a bit too serious. My point exactly. People need to lighten up a bit. I thought the Paris Hilton rebuttal was a good one. Also thought that Jib Jab video was funny, though it seemed like no candidate’s supporters were terribly ammused by their candidate’s portrayal. Everyone’s just a bit too serious.

]]> By: Joe http://mccain.blogsforvictory.com/2008/08/02/humor-as-a-remedy-for-hubris/#comment-3366 Joe Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:28:09 +0000 http://mccain.blogsforvictory.com/2008/08/02/humor-as-a-remedy-for-hubris/#comment-3366 KM, that is a great thing about factcheck.org... they are not blasting McCain's ads because they are partisan. They also say when Obama ads are false as well. You want to laugh? This is a funny comment... <i>McCain's campaign "ran an ad saying Washington is broken. No kidding. It took him 26 years to figure it out," Obama said.</i> Hey... if McCain <i>does</i> win this, let's hope things actually click in his 27th year in Washington! Not sure I will hold my breath for it. KM, that is a great thing about factcheck.org… they are not blasting McCain’s ads because they are partisan. They also say when Obama ads are false as well.

You want to laugh? This is a funny comment…

McCain’s campaign “ran an ad saying Washington is broken. No kidding. It took him 26 years to figure it out,” Obama said.

Hey… if McCain does win this, let’s hope things actually click in his 27th year in Washington! Not sure I will hold my breath for it.

]]> By: KMorrison http://mccain.blogsforvictory.com/2008/08/02/humor-as-a-remedy-for-hubris/#comment-3363 KMorrison Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:55:02 +0000 http://mccain.blogsforvictory.com/2008/08/02/humor-as-a-remedy-for-hubris/#comment-3363 Completely fair to challenge the statements in the ads; but a majority of the criticisms I've heard about the ad is this sort of inability to laugh at the celebrity and status part of the Obama campaign. I just think statements like 'We are the change that we seek' are funny. Now, I'll have to admit that my sense of humor is not always appropriate, but I also find it funny how people have freaked over these ads. They've actually brought more attention to them than they ever would have received on their own. My counter to the statements in the ad would be that they're both doing it, which certainly doesn't make it right, but putting up either one as a saint is a bit off the mark. (ie. Obama's energy ad) Completely fair to challenge the statements in the ads; but a majority of the criticisms I’ve heard about the ad is this sort of inability to laugh at the celebrity and status part of the Obama campaign. I just think statements like ‘We are the change that we seek’ are funny. Now, I’ll have to admit that my sense of humor is not always appropriate, but I also find it funny how people have freaked over these ads. They’ve actually brought more attention to them than they ever would have received on their own.

My counter to the statements in the ad would be that they’re both doing it, which certainly doesn’t make it right, but putting up either one as a saint is a bit off the mark. (ie. Obama’s energy ad)

]]> By: Joe http://mccain.blogsforvictory.com/2008/08/02/humor-as-a-remedy-for-hubris/#comment-3232 Joe Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:43:41 +0000 http://mccain.blogsforvictory.com/2008/08/02/humor-as-a-remedy-for-hubris/#comment-3232 Or......................... "The One" ad is just another way to make Obama look like a scary man who is too high on himself. Besides... why would you want to make an ad about actual <i><b>ISSUES</i></b>??? Oh that's right... McCain doesn't know what a truthful ad is as evidenced here... factcheck.org/elections-2008/mccain_links_castro_with_obama.html here... factcheck.org/elections-2008/a_full_tank_of_nonsense.html here... factcheck.org/elections-2008/the_truth_on_troop_support.html here... factcheck.org/elections-2008/a_false_accusation_about_energy.html here... factcheck.org/elections-2008/distorting_obama.html here… factcheck.org/elections-2008/errors_en_espantildeol.html and here… factcheck.org/elections-2008/snubbing_wounded_troops.html oh by the way, here is the factcheck on “The One”… http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obamas_celebrity_cred.html So how long do we have to wait until McCain starts talking about issues and stops distorting everything Obama says? Or…………………….
“The One” ad is just another way to make Obama look like a scary man who is too high on himself. Besides… why would you want to make an ad about actual ISSUES???

Oh that’s right… McCain doesn’t know what a truthful ad is as evidenced

here…
factcheck.org/elections-2008/mccain_links_castro_with_obama.html

here…
factcheck.org/elections-2008/a_full_tank_of_nonsense.html

here…
factcheck.org/elections-2008/the_truth_on_troop_support.html

here…
factcheck.org/elections-2008/a_false_accusation_about_energy.html

here…
factcheck.org/elections-2008/distorting_obama.html

here…
factcheck.org/elections-2008/errors_en_espantildeol.html

and here…
factcheck.org/elections-2008/snubbing_wounded_troops.html

oh by the way, here is the factcheck on “The One”…
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obamas_celebrity_cred.html

So how long do we have to wait until McCain starts talking about issues and stops distorting everything Obama says?

]]> By: JoeInBos http://mccain.blogsforvictory.com/2008/08/02/humor-as-a-remedy-for-hubris/#comment-3228 JoeInBos Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:40:20 +0000 http://mccain.blogsforvictory.com/2008/08/02/humor-as-a-remedy-for-hubris/#comment-3228 Or......................... "The One" ad is just another way to make Obama look like a scary man who is too high on himself. Besides... why would you want to make an ad about actual <i><b>ISSUES</i></b>??? Oh that's right... McCain doesn't know what a truthful ad is as evidenced here... http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/mccain_links_castro_with_obama.html here... http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/a_full_tank_of_nonsense.html here... http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/the_truth_on_troop_support.html here... http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/a_false_accusation_about_energy.html here... http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/distorting_obama.html here… http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/errors_en_espantildeol.html and here… http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/snubbing_wounded_troops.html oh by the way, here is the factcheck on “The One”… http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obamas_celebrity_cred.html So how long do we have to wait until McCain starts talking about issues and stops distorting everything Obama says? Or…………………….
“The One” ad is just another way to make Obama look like a scary man who is too high on himself. Besides… why would you want to make an ad about actual ISSUES???

Oh that’s right… McCain doesn’t know what a truthful ad is as evidenced

here…
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/mccain_links_castro_with_obama.html

here…
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/a_full_tank_of_nonsense.html

here…
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/the_truth_on_troop_support.html

here…
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/a_false_accusation_about_energy.html

here…
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/distorting_obama.html

here…
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/errors_en_espantildeol.html

and here…
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/snubbing_wounded_troops.html

oh by the way, here is the factcheck on “The One”…
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obamas_celebrity_cred.html

So how long do we have to wait until McCain starts talking about issues and stops distorting everything Obama says?

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