I’m far from being a gun expert, but I look at it as first a consitutional issue, and second as issue best addressed by the local government. I can understand Eric’s concern about Obama’s stance on guns becase he flipped on the DC gun ban, and he filled out a survey in the state Senate saying he would support a ban on the manufacturing of guns. I know he’s said that it was a staffer that filled out that survey, but that can’t be comforting to gun owners. It is reasonable to think that with an Obama presidency and a Democratically controlled Congress the gun control laws would likely be increased.

Well, at least I think we may all be in agreement about background checks.

“I don’t understand why the hell someone needs a high-powered semi-automatic rifle. That is a whole other story.”

I don’t know what you enjoy for a hobby, maybe dancing, shopping, watching porno? How about if someone tells you, I don’t understand why someone needs a speedboat, a muscle car, expensive clothes, a personal jet ect….

They have competition shoots with service rifles, many can be used for hunting.

I’ll tell you that many folks just enjoy owning the gun or type of gun that their dad or grandfather used in WW2 or Korea ect…

Clinton Gun ban included the M-1 Garand, and M-1 carbine. These classic guns may have been handed down and have real sentimental value to many people. I can tell you have not served in the military.

But you, Obama and your elitist yuppy gun ban pals ought to worry about your own hobby. Look at how many deaths are cause from drunk drivers.

Go ban bars, alcohol, or automobiles or something else.

I’m a collector,shooting is my hobby.
Sporting Clays (not skeet or trap) is better than golf anyday. One thing I like about target shooting, is it is something you don’t need a group of people to do, like golf, baseball, ect.. you get some time off work, you don’t need to make arrangements with people, you just go shooting.

I watched Clinton, Ban half of my collection.

I don’t want to see our government Turning American citizens into criminals.

Joe I seen it with my own eyes when Clinton was in. Look at Obama’s record one more time.

I could list the guns that I owned banned under Clinton, I know you’ll write back and say don’t worry about it Eric they ain’t going to take your guns.

I’m going to reply, yes they have Joe, I can list the guns I owned that were banned.

I’m all for guns used for hunting. I personally don’t hunt, but I know plenty of people that do. Love fresh venison on the grill. Again, there is no need for a rush on the gun. So yes… all for background checks.

I don’t understand why the hell someone needs a high-powered semi-automatic rifle. That is a whole other story.

Eric, I guess you don’t want to believe that your guns aren’t going to be taken away. And that is funny that it would leave “us and our families defenseless”. That is a funny line. I hope to God that you never have to use yours in self-defense.

It seems that there is a group of Obama supporters that fall into the category of educational elitists that are not helping as their condesention is being attributed to their candidate. Certainly Obama’s ‘guns and God’ comment didn’t help him, but I think it’s a certain group of his supporters who are apparently too smart to recognize that their own behavior and bad attitude hurts their candidate.

–Joe are you opposed to background checks at gun shows?

So now, those are just outdated? Does that mean he would now get an A+? Would that be considered a flip-flop, a pander, or did his beliefs just take a turn for the better?

Again, guns aren’t getting taken away regardless who is in office.

FACT: Barack Obama voted against the confirmation of 2 of the 5 Justices that affirmed an individual right to keep and bear arms.

FACT: Barack Obama voted to allow reckless lawsuits designed to bankrupt the firearms industry.1

FACT: Barack Obama wants to re-impose the failed and discredited Clinton Gun Ban.15

FACT: Barack Obama voted to ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.3

FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a 500% increase in the federal excise tax on firearms and ammunition.9

FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a complete ban on handgun ownership.2

FACT: Barack Obama supports local gun bans in Chicago, Washington, D.C., and other cities.4

FACT: Barack Obama voted to uphold local gun bans and the criminal prosecution of people
who use firearms in self-defense.5

FACT: Barack Obama supports gun owner licensing and gun registration.6

FACT: Barack Obama refused to sign a friend-of-the-court Brief in support of individual Second Amendment rights in the Heller case.

FACT: Barack Obama opposes Right to Carry laws.7

FACT: Barack Obama was a member of the Board of Directors of the Joyce Foundation, the leading source of funds for anti-gun organizations and “research.”8

FACT: Barack Obama supported a proposal to ban gun stores within 5 miles of a school or park, which would eliminate almost every gun store in America.9

FACT: Barack Obama voted not to notify gun owners when the state of Illinois did records searches on them.10

FACT: Barack Obama voted against a measure to lower the Firearms Owners Identification card age minimum from 21 to 18, a measure designed to assist young people in the military.11

FACT: Barack Obama favors a ban on standard capacity magazines.12

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory micro-stamping.13

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory waiting periods.2

FACT: Barack Obama supports repeal of the Tiahrt Amendment, which prohibits information on gun traces collected by the BATFE from being used in reckless lawsuits against firearm dealers and manufacturers.14

FACT: Barack Obama supports one-gun-a-month handgun purchase restrictions.16

FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on inexpensive handguns.9

FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on the resale of police issued firearms, even if the money is going to police departments for replacement equipment.9

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory firearm training requirements for all gun owners and a ban on gun ownership for persons under the age of 21.9

I just find that statement completely crazy.

Apparently we will have to agree to disagree.

I’ll still argue that Obama doesn’t have the final say on guns, so this is a non-issue. This is too much of a wedge issue for any party to do anything about. You’ll still be able to use all your guns and ammo that you currently have.

We need to worry about things that actually affect us. This is about 100th on the list.

Background Checks at Gun Shows

At a time when some were trying to shut down gun shows in the name of fighting crime, John McCain tried to preserve gun shows by standardizing sales procedures. Federal law requires licensed firearm sellers at gun shows to do an instant criminal background check on purchasers while private firearm sellers at gun shows do not have to conduct such a check. John McCain introduced legislation that would require an instant criminal background check for all sales at gun shows and believes that such checks must be conducted quickly to ensure that unnecessary delays do not effectively block transactions

Joe, lets say me and you go to the gun show, I take a gun that want to sell because I no longer like the gun or need some cash. When a buyer sees the gun and wants to buy it. We go to a dealer that sells guns, he runs the background check on the buyer. The ATF/FBI do the instant background check, the buyer fills out the paperwork.

This some may feel is a registry, but I personnaly like the fact that The ATF/FBI is doing the background check. Let’s say there was no record of the transfer. The buyer goes out and commits a crime with the gun, that is still registered to me, then leaves the gun at the seen of the crime. Guess who now has a big problem on his hands, me!!!

So I see this a giving the new owner, a title, ownership and responsiblity for the gun.

You are spitting Ron Paul’s primary campaign material back. GOA has not updated their site. If they did you would see that McCain and Obama are two worlds apart on the issue.

Obama would wipe out, complete classes of guns, and ammo, pretty much destroy the 2nd Amendment, hunting, sport shooting.

McCain has not supported the Clinton Gun ban, ammo bans, magazine capacity ban, and alot of the nonsense Obama/Biden have supported.

McCain, other than on the transfer that protects the seller from liability, he Leaves your hobby alone. Where as you can count on Obama forcing his way into your collection/hobby/sport pretty much destroying it forever, with a record like he has that clearly tells you what he will take from you.

I watched Obama’s wife give a speech last night, his family is beautiful and I’m proud America has gotten past racism and the Leader of the Democrats is an African American for the first time in history. But it is clear this guy will take your guns. Tax policy, and other issues are nowhere near as important to me. I look foward to hunting all year, shooting is a hobby just like golf, or boating is to many.